Non-vip Only Map And Kit Cooldowns

[SAFollis]

My suggestion is to add a Non-VIP only map (where there would only be non donators/VIPs).
This would allow non-vips to get kills when there are all of the vips killing all of the non-vips.
My other suggestion is to make it so there is a cooldown on kits. Warrior and archer wouldn't have one. The potion class (Mage?) would have a cooldown of every other life (to limit pot spamming), slapper wouldn't have a cooldown because it's pretty much warrior/can be beaten pretty easy by warrior.

 

[Trenly]

A few problems:

1) The reason people buy vip status is so they can get more kills. If you team with VIPs, you can get kills pretty easily To get more kills try to avoid the VIPs and focus only on killing archers and warriors.

2) While potion spamming is undesirable, most of the time, they just end up wasting potions and killing themselves. Being that it is not considered op, there is no need for a cool down.

3) VIPs pay for those kits, they are garunteed to be able to use them by the signs saying [rank] Only. Having a cool down would not garuntee them being able to use that kit.

4) The higher level VIPs have access to two kits both in their rank, if each had a cool down of one life, they could just alternate. Or, they could just use lower level vip kits. Either way they can get around it.

5) Not all the kits are op. Assassin, Slapper, Mage, Spy and a few others are most definitely not op, so they shouldn't need cool downs.

Overall, cool downs are not necessary and a non-vip can get kills easily, if they go about it in the right way.

 

[SAFollis]

A few problems:

1) The reason people buy vip status is so they can get more kills. If you team with VIPs, you can get kills pretty easily To get more kills try to avoid the VIPs and focus only on killing archers and warriors.

2) While potion spamming is undesirable, most of the time, they just end up wasting potions and killing themselves. Being that it is not considered op, there is no need for a cool down.

3) VIPs pay for those kits, they are garunteed to be able to use them by the signs saying [rank] Only. Having a cool down would not garuntee them being able to use that kit.

4) The higher level VIPs have access to two kits both in their rank, if each had a cool down of one life, they could just alternate. Or, they could just use lower level vip kits. Either way they can get around it.

5) Not all the kits are op. Assassin, Slapper, Mage, Spy and a few others are most definitely not op, so they shouldn't need cool downs.

Overall, cool downs are not necessary and a non-vip can get kills easily, if they go about it in the right way.

1. Yes, it is true, but usually they get the kills for themselves.
2. One person killed me (while I was OP kit) with potion spamming (by spamming the kit 10 times)
3. Why wouldn't they be guaranteed? It's just a cooldown.
4. That's the point. So they use a more variety of classes.
5. Then they wouldn't have a cooldown--but mage would have a 1 life cooldown (becuase of pot spamming).

 

[Trenly]

1. Yes, it is true, but usually they get the kills for themselves.
2. One person killed me (while I was OP kit) with potion spamming (by spamming the kit 10 times)
3. Why wouldn't they be guaranteed? It's just a cooldown.
4. That's the point. So they use a more variety of classes.
5. Then they wouldn't have a cooldown--but mage would have a 1 life cooldown (becuase of pot spamming).

1) USUALLY. Not always. Also, for 5 kills they can buy a kit and then use that to get more kills, so they can constantly upgrade if they are skilled enough.
2) Then you should be smart enough to back away and eat some soup or regen before they come at you TEN TIMES. 10*64=640. You should know to GTFO before they kill you.
3) You would not be able to use them every time
4) There is no need for variety in KPvp
5) Potion spamming is only problematic for people who aren't smart enough to run away

 

[SAFollis]

1) USUALLY. Not always. Also, for 5 kills they can buy a kit and then use that to get more kills, so they can constantly upgrade if they are skilled enough.
2) Then you should be smart enough to back away and eat some soup or regen before they come at you TEN TIMES. 10*64=640. You should know to GTFO before they kill you.
3) You would not be able to use them every time
4) There is no need for variety in KPvp
5) Potion spamming is only problematic for people who aren't smart enough to run away

USUALLY. You have to wait an entire day to get 1 kit.
2. HE HAD SPEED HACKS. ok?
3. Sooooo
4. Yes.
5. see 2.

 

[Anchezz]

2. One person killed me (while I was OP kit) with potion spamming (by spamming the kit 10 times)

2) Then you should be smart enough to back away and eat some soup or regen before they come at you TEN TIMES. 10*64=640. You should know to GTFO before they kill you.

The OP kit doesn't have any soup.

But I like the idea about the non-VIP arena, even though I'm a mockingjay.
The non-VIPs have rarely no chance to get kills since they're the ones who get killed.

 

[Trenly]

SAFollis: What do you mean

You have to wait an entire day to get 1 kit.

Also, if he had speed hacks, then you have no right to complain about potion spamming as it was not a licit kill.

The OP kit doesn't have any soup.
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Anchezz: Thanks for reminding me. However, over time they could still regenerate

 

[SAFollis]

SAFollis: What do you mean

Also, if he had speed hacks, then you have no right to complain about potion spamming as it was not a licit kill.


Anchezz: Thanks for reminding me. However, over time they could still regenerate

I mean an entire day to get a kit (like shadow and such). If you're lucky no vip's will be on (or not very good ones) and you can get them easier

 

[TheAwesomePerson]

I think that both of those are bad ideas. Like trenly said if there was a non vip arena the vips wouldn't be able to use their kit they payed for to get kills. Also mage isn't that op there are kits that have a cool down that is oitc, op, and endermage. Low stuff like mage is not that good. Warriors and other kits can easily kill a mage. If that person you said actually did have speed hacks you should have reported him and not made a post about putting a cool down on pot spamming kits. Also if there was a 1 death cool down they could easily just type /kill and then get the kit back. So both of your ideas are not good.

 

[Trenly]

I think that both of those are bad ideas. Like trenly said if there was a non vip arena the vips wouldn't be able to use their kit they payed for to get kills. Also mage isn't that op there are kits that have a cool down that is oitc, op, and endermage. Low stuff like mage is not that good. Warriors and other kits can easily kill a mage. If that person you said actually did have speed hacks you should have reported him and not made a post about putting a cool down on pot spamming kits. Also if there was a 1 death cool down they could easily just type /kill and then get the kit back. So both of your ideas are not good.

Exactly

 

[SAFollis]

Exactly

Not exactly. There are other vips. You'd also have to go into combat for it to count.